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Decrease 41
Simplify and reduce.
Embrace minimalism to gain clarity and focus on what truly matters.
Letting go can bring unexpected abundance.


Line 1
Acting promptly and efficiently is beneficial, but one should be mindful of not diminishing others in the process.


Line 4
Reducing one's own shortcomings encourages others to approach with joy, leading to harmonious relationships.


Line 5
External support is assured and unstoppable, leading to great success and prosperity.


Conflict 6
Conflict arises.
Approach disputes with clarity and fairness.
Seek resolution over victory.
Compromise is key.



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Decrease


Other titles: Decrease, The Symbol of Lessening, Loss, Diminishing, Reduction, Diminution of Excesses, Decline, Bringing into Balance, Dynamic Balance, Sacrifice, "Not necessarily material loss. Can mean decreasing the lower self to increase the higher." -- D.F. Hook

 

Judgment

Legge: Compensating Sacrifice means that sincerely maintained rectitude brings great success. Action is appropriate if one's sacrifice is sincere -- even two baskets of grain, though there be nothing else, may be offered.

Wilhelm/Baynes:Decrease combined with sincerity brings about supreme good fortune without blame. One may be persevering in this. It furthers one to undertake something. How is this to be carried out? One may use two small bowls for the sacrifice.

Blofeld: Loss accompanied by confidence -- sublime good fortune and no error! It is favorable to have in view some goal (or destination). If there is doubt as to what to use for the sacrifice, two small bowls will suffice.

Liu:Decrease with sincerity: great good fortune, no blame. One may continue. It is beneficial to go somewhere. How can this (decrease with sincerity) be done? One may use two bamboo containers of grain for a sacrifice.

Ritsema/Karcher: Diminishing, possessing conformity. Spring significant. Without fault, permitting Trial. Harvesting: possessing directed going. Asking-why: having availing of. Two platters permit availing-of presenting. [This hexagram describes your situation in terms of sacrifice and loss. It emphasizes that lessening yourself and decreasing your involvements is the adequate way to handle it...]

Shaughnessy: There is a return; prime auspiciousness; there is no trouble. It can be determined. Beneficial to have someplace to go. Why use two tureens; you can use aromatic grass.

Cleary (1): Reduction with sincerity is very auspicious, impeccable. It should be correct. It is beneficial to go somewhere. What is the use of the two bowls? They can be used to receive.

Cleary (2): … It is beneficial to have somewhere to go, etc … They can be used for presentation.

Wu: Loss indicates that with confidence there will be great fortune, no error, perseverance, and advantage to have undertakings. What to use in offerings? Two boxes of grain are adequate.

 

The Image

Legge: The image of a mountain and beneath it the waters of a marsh form Compensating Sacrifice. The superior man, in accordance with this, restrains his wrath and represses his desires.

Wilhelm/Baynes: At the foot of the mountain, the lake: the image of Decrease. Thus the superior man controls his anger and restrains his instincts.

Blofeld: This hexagram symbolizes a marshy lake at the foot of a mountain. The Superior Man keeps his anger under control and is moderate in his desires.

Liu: The lake beside the mountain symbolizes Decrease. The superior man curbs his indignation and restricts his desires.

Ritsema/Karcher: Below mountain possessing marsh. Diminishing. A chun tzu uses curbing anger to block the appetites.

Cleary (1): There is a lake under a mountain, reducing it. Thus does the superior person eliminate wrath and cupidity.

Cleary (2): Lake below a mountain – Reducing. Thus do developed people eliminate anger and greed.

Wu: There is a marsh below the mountain; this is Loss. Thus the jun zi mitigates his anger and restrains his desires.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: In Compensating Sacrificethe lower trigram is diminished to increase the upper, and the flow is upward. The two baskets of grain accord with the time. There is a time when the strong should be diminished and the weak strengthened. Decrease and increase, overflowing and emptiness, take place in harmony with the demands of the time.

Legge: Ch'eng-tzu says: "Every diminution and repression of what we have in excess to bring it into accordance with right and reason is comprehended under Compensating Sacrifice. If there is sincerity in doing this it will lead to success and happiness, and even if the offering is small, yet it will be accepted."

The K'ang-hsi editors say: "What is meant by diminishing in this hexagram is the regulation of expenditure or contribution according to the time. This would vary in a family according to its poverty or wealth, and in a state according to the abundance or scantiness of its resources. If one supplements the insufficiency of his offering with the abundance of his sincerity, the insignificance of his two baskets will not be despised."

The waters of a marsh are continually rising up in vapor to bedew the hill above it, and thus increase its verdure. What is taken from the marsh gives increase to the hill.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Judgment: A sacrifice creates equilibrium.

The Superior Man sacrifices his appetites to a higher principle.

The traditional name for this hexagram is Decrease, but the lines and commentary all describe a compensating exchange of forces to attain equilibrium. The idea of "sacrifice" is mentioned in the Judgment, and that also might make a good title, though the image of two baskets of grain suggests a balancing scale: a "compensating" device. In this hexagram, the flow of energy moves from below upwards -- the waters of the lake or marsh are dispersed to enrich the mountain. In psychological terms we think of the ego sacrificing or decreasing its autonomy to achieve psychic equilibrium with the Self: we forfeit something valuable to obtain something even more valuable. Without this quid pro quo, the concept of sacrifice is meaningless and irrational.

A sacrifice is meant to be a loss, so that one may be sure that the egoistic claim no longer exists. Therefore the gift should be given as if it were being destroyed. But since the gift represents myself, I have in that case destroyed myself, given myself away without expectation of return. Yet, looked at in another way, this intentional loss is also a gain, for if you can give yourself it proves that you possess yourself. Nobody can give what he has not got.
Jung -- Transformation Symbolism in the Mass

Compare the Image message from hexagram number 15, Temperance with the notion of a compensating balance: "The superior man, in accordance with this, diminishes his excesses to augment his insufficiencies, thus creating a just balance." We are reminded of another "Temperance" -- the 14th Arcanum of the Tarot, which depicts an angel pouring water from one vessel into another: "compensating." A comparison of its symbolism with that of hexagram number 41 yields many insights:

The Path of ... TEMPERANCE, leads from ... the Personality [ego] to the Higher Self ... The whole experience is one of preparation of the Personality [ego], and the body in which it is operating, to deal with an influx of Light which would be devastating to a system unready to handle such energy. Most important here is the monitoring of progress, the continual testing from above. It is the angel here which is at once the Higher Self and the initiatory forces of Nature, which pours the elixir from vase to vase. This is an ongoing process of testing; measuring to see how much the physical vehicle can bear.
R. Wang --The Qabalistic Tarot

Without belaboring the point, we can see that all sacrifice is a kind of remuneration: it couldn't be otherwise in an interconnected universe. The Image instruction for the superior man to “control his anger” is also echoed in the Temperance card. This relates to:

...an aspect of the Mysteries only rarely discussed, and certainly germane to the Twenty-Fifth Path [the Kabbalistic equivalent of the relationship between lines one and four in this hexagram]: this is the very real hostility often felt by the student toward the Path itself, as he works day after day and seems to be getting nowhere. Such hostility and frustration is in itself a major test; it is part and parcel of the work prior to the emergence of inner proofs. -- Ibid

"Decrease with sincerity" (Liu) refers to one's continuous sacrifice for the goals of the Work, and "curbing anger" (Ritsema/Karcher) is how one handles the archetypal forces evoked when the decrease seems endless and you've yet to receive anything in return. Like any other hexagram, Compensating Sacrifice can symbolize an infinity of possible situations, but psychologically speaking we can first regard it as an image of sacrifice for the purpose of attaining a balance of power within the psyche. Without the sacrificial devotion of the ego, the Self cannot attain its will; and if the Self can't make it, the ego is doomed by default.


Line 1

Legge: The first line, dynamic, shows its subject suspending his own affairs, and hurrying away to help the subject of the fourth line. He will commit no error, but let him consider how far he should contribute of what is his for the other.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Going quickly when one's tasks are finished is without blame. But one must reflect on how much one may decrease others.

Blofeld: To hurry away when work is done is not wrong, but first consider whether such a hasty departure will harm the work.

Liu: To go quickly after the work is done brings no blame. One should consider how much the decrease will be.

Ritsema/Karcher: Climaxing affairs, swiftly going. Without fault. Discussing Diminishing it.

Shaughnessy: Already serving the ends in going; there is no trouble; toasting decreases it.

Cleary (1): Ending affairs, going quickly, there is no fault; but assess before reducing something.

Cleary (2): … Assess the reduction of this.

Wu: He stops doing his own things, and swiftly goes forward. There will be no blame. He should consider limiting the loss.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: The subject of the fourth line mingles her wishes with his. Wilhelm/Baynes: The mind of the one above accords with one's own. Blofeld: Moreover, the approval of our superiors must first be obtained. Ritsema/ Karcher: Honoring uniting purposes indeed. Cleary (2): Valuing unification of aims. Wu: He does what pleases the above.

Legge: Line one is dynamic and his correlate in line four is magnetic. He wants to help her, but won't leave anything of his own undone in doing so. Nor will he diminish anything of his own for her without due deliberation.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Siu: At the outset, the man disregards his own interests to help his superior. The latter should be sensitive to the amount of such help that can be accepted without harm to the subordinate. Neither should a subordinate give without due consideration.

Wing: When you are in a position to help others or to be helped yourself, be certain that moderation is exercised. To give or take too much can result in an imbalanced situation. Think this through carefully before acting.

Editor: The full meaning of this line is best evoked by comparing it with its fourth line correlate. This is an image of less than total support. It says: "Render all due assistance." It is left up to you to differentiate the appropriate amount, which is a hint that a test may be involved. ("...Let him consider how far he should contribute of what is his for the other" can sometimes imply a warning about slavish service to archetypal powers.) When compared with the image of line four, we get a definite picture of an active balancing of forces – perhaps a dialectical process. The Self is demanding a differentiation from the rational ego. This is a complex line which often implies messages which are literally impossible to put into words.

Principally he must know how far he is willing to go, what he is willing to sacrifice. There is nothing more easy to say than everything. A man can never sacrifice everything and this can never be required of him. But he must define exactly what he is willing to sacrifice and not bargain about it afterwards.
Gurdjieff

A. An image of judicious choices to attain proper balance or equitable compensation of forces.

B. How much are you willing to give to the Work? (Be careful with your answer!)

C. Render aid to "the one above." (The Self.)

Line 4

Legge: The fourth line, magnetic, shows its subject diminishing the ailment under which she labors by making the subject of the first line hasten to her help, and make her glad. There will be no error.

Wilhelm/Baynes: If a man decreases his faults, it makes the other hasten to come and rejoice. No blame.

Blofeld: He reduced the number of ills besetting him and thus hastened the arrival of happiness -- no error!

Liu: If he decreases his sickness (or faults) quickly, he will be happy. No blame.

Ritsema/Karcher: Diminishing one's affliction. Commissioning swiftly possesses rejoicing. Without fault.

Shaughnessy: Decreasing his illness; serving ends has happiness; there is no trouble.

Cleary (1): Reducing sickness, causing there to be joy quickly, there is no fault.

Cleary (2): Reducing the ailment causes there to be joy soon. No blame.

Wu: His illness is alleviated and conditions are quickly improved. There is joy. No error.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: This is a matter for joy. Wilhelm/Baynes: It is indeed something that gives cause for joy. Blofeld: A reduction of troubles is in itself a cause for happiness. Ritsema/Karcher: Truly permitting rejoicing indeed. Cleary (2): Reducing the ailment is a matter of joy. Wu: Capable of alleviating his illness is a cause for joy.

Legge: Line four is magnetic in a magnetic place, like someone ailing and unable to perform her proper work. But her first line correlate is strong, and is made to hasten to four's relief. The joy of the line shows her desire to do her part in the work of the hexagram.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Siu: As a consequence of giving up his bad habits, the man attracts the help of well-disposed friends.

Wing: If you can now locate your shortcomings and bad habits and make a serious attempt to decrease them you will be approached by friends and helpers. A humble attitude on your part will open the way to progressive interaction and joy.

Editor: The full meaning of this line is best evoked by comparing it with its first line correlate. All translations render line four in the imagery of decreasing one's faults (or illness). That is: rid yourself of error and happiness will come to you. Legge's version depicts incapacity which is overcome through a correct union with line one. Taken in this sense, the line can symbolize the Self (line four, upper trigram of Heaven) gaining from the ego's sacrifice in spacetime (line one, lower trigram of Earth). Whatever the context of your query, the image here is of a harmonization of forces to bring about balance.

Man is a materialized thought; he is what he thinks. To change his nature from the mortal to the immortal state he must cease to hold fast in his thoughts to that which is illusory and perishing, and hold on to that which is eternal.
F. Hartmann --Paracelsus: Life and Prophecies

A. A decrease in error is an increase in truth.

B. The elimination of imbalance promotes union; the elimination of illusion makes room for joy.

C. The one above (the Self) accepts your aid, endorses your action, etc.

Line 5

Legge: The fifth line, magnetic, shows parties adding to the stores of its subject ten pairs of tortoise shells, and accepting no refusal. There will be great good fortune.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Someone does indeed increase him. Ten pairs of tortoises cannot oppose it. Supreme good fortune.

Blofeld: There was one who enriched him to the extent of ten PENG of tortoise shells (2,100 of them) and who would accept no refusal -- sublime good fortune!

Liu: He is enriched by twenty tortoises and he cannot refuse. Great good fortune.

Ritsema/Karcher: Maybe augmenting's ten: partnering's tortoise. Nowhere a controlling contradiction. Spring significant.

Shaughnessy: Increasing it by ten double-strands of turtles; you cannot deflect it; prime auspiciousness.

Cleary (1): One is given a profit of ten pairs of tortoise shells. None can oppose. Very auspicious.

Wu: He may be presented with ten pairs of tortoise shells and may not decline the gift. This is great fortune.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: This is due to the blessing from above. Wilhelm/Baynes: The supreme good fortune comes from its being blessed from above. Blofeld: Good fortune coming from those above. Ritsema/Karcher: Originating-from shielding above indeed. Cleary (2): Help from above. Wu: He has been blessed from heaven.

Legge: Line five is the seat of the ruler, who is here humble, and welcomes the assistance of her correlate in line two. She is a ruler whom all her subjects of ability will rejoice to serve in every possible way, and the result will be great good fortune.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Siu: Fate has marked the man for good fortune. Nothing opposes him. He needs fear nothing.

Wing: You are marked by fate. Nothing stands in the way of this. It comes about through refined inner forces that have led you into this situation. Fear nothing. Good fortune.

Editor: The most ancient method of divination in China involved the use of tortoise shells (Plastromancy). The yarrow stalk and coin methods didn't come into vogue until after King Wen committed the I Ching to writing. At the time that this line was composed then, to receive ten pairs of tortoise shells was a very numinous gift -- perhaps equivalent to "having God on your side.” The "blessing from above” is mentioned by some commentators as a reference to the oracles obtained through divining with the tortoise shells, and could be construed as an endorsement of your interpretative skills. This line changes the hexagram to number sixty-one,Inner Truth, the corresponding line of which expresses the idea of a beneficial synthesis of forces.

Good fortune is a god among men, and more than a god.
Aeschylus

A. A great reward -- the context of your query will tell you what it is.

B. Beneficial energy is on its way.

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Conflict


Other titles: Conflict, The Symbol of Contention, Strife, Litigation, Quarreling, Arguing, Lawsuit, "It is important to mind one's step at the very beginning then things will have a chance to work out all right." -- D.F. Hook

 

Judgment

Legge: Stress indicates that despite sincere motivations, one still meets with opposition and obstruction. Maintain an apprehensive caution. To prosecute the contention to the bitter end will produce evil results. It is advantageous to see the Great Man. It is not advantageous to cross the great stream.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Conflict. You are sincere and are being obstructed. A cautious halt halfway brings good fortune. Going through to the end brings misfortune. It furthers one to see the great man. It does not further one to cross the great water.

Blofeld: Conflict. Confidence accompanied by obstacles! With care, affairs can be made to prosper in their middle course, but the final outcome will be disaster. It is advantageous to visit a great man, but not to cross the great river (or sea). [In general, this hexagram indicates that we have little chance of success in any conflict, dispute or lawsuit in which we are now engaged and that retreat is the best policy -- unless line one or five is a moving line, in which case the position is more hopeful. We can profit from the advice of someone truly wise, but a journey of any kind at this time would be disastrous.]

Liu: Conflict; you have sincerity even though obstructed, stop halfway -- good fortune; follow to the end -- misfortune. It is of benefit to see a great man, but not to cross the great water.

Ritsema/Karcher: Arguing , possessing conformity. Blocking awe.

Centering significant. Completing: pitfall. Harvesting: visualizing Great People. Not Harvesting: wading the Great River. [This hexagram describes your situation in terms of a dispute. It emphasizes that actively expressing your claims and objections is the adequate way to handle it. To be in accord with the time, you are told to argue!] (Sic)

Shaughnessy: Lawsuit : There is a return; pitying and tranquil, it succeeds to be auspicious, but in the end is inauspicious; beneficial herewith to see the great man; not beneficial to ford the great river.

Cleary (1): Contention; there is blockage of truth. Caution and moderation lead to good results, finality leads to bad results. It is beneficial to see a great person, not beneficial to cross a great river.

Cleary (2): …Wariness within leads to good results, but ending up that way is unfortunate … etc.

Wu:Litigation indicates an obstruction of trust. If the subject is vigilant, he will have good fortune. If he is libelous to the end, he will face foreboding. It will be advantageous to see the great man. It will not be advantageous to cross the big river.

 

The Image

Legge: The image of water moving away from heaven forms Stress. The superior man, in accordance with this, takes good counsel about the beginning of any enterprise.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Heaven and water go their opposite ways: the image of Conflict. Thus in all his transactions the superior man carefully considers the beginning.

Blofeld: This hexagram symbolizes sky and water in opposition. The Superior Man does not embark upon any affair until he has carefully planned the start.

Liu: Heaven and water go in different directions, symbolizing Conflict. The superior man contemplates the beginning before undertaking an enterprise.

Ritsema/Karcher: Heaven associating-with stream, contradicting movements. Arguing, a chun tzu uses arousing affairs to plan beginning.

Cleary (1): When heaven and water go in different directions, there is contention. Superior people plan in the beginning when they do things.

Cleary (2): … When leaders do things, they plan to begin with.

Wu: Heaven and water go in opposite directions; this is Litigation. Thus the jun zi plans well before taking actions.

 

COMMENTARY

Confucius/Legge: The coming together of Strength and Peril gives the idea of Stress. A dynamic line in the central place in the lower trigram shows how there will be good fortune if one maintains apprehensive caution; but because contention should not be taken to extremes, there will be evil if one prosecutes his contention to the bitter end. The great man sets a value on the due mean. If one attempts to cross the great stream, he finds himself in an abyss.

Legge: The upper trigram of Strength here controls the lower trigram of Peril which is trying to attack it. Or it may also be seen as someone in a perilous situation contending with strong outside forces. The image is of contention and strife. The sincere yang line in the middle of the trigram of Peril gives a character to the whole figure -- an individual so represented will be very cautious and have good fortune. But since contention is bad, even a sincere individual must fail if he pursues it to the bitter end. The fifth line represents the great man, whose agency is sure to be good. His decision in any matter of contention will be correct. The sixth line is also dynamic, but his action is likely to be too rash for a great enterprise, hence the warning about not attempting to cross the great stream.

 

NOTES AND PARAPHRASES

Judgment: Be careful, don't attempt much, and don't allow the situation to get out of hand.

The Superior Man is judicious about his choices of action to ensure that the situation remains stable.

The hexagram portrays a high level of tension. Wilhelm points out that the only "favorable" line is the ruler in the fifth place, and that all of the other lines symbolize people quarreling. It should also be noted that lines one through four counsel either retreat from contention or remaining passively in place. Only line five suggests that an active struggle can have a favorable outcome, and line six portrays the sorry fate of those who insist on "demanding their rights." If we turn the hexagram upside down we have Waiting, which suggests some subtle truths about the proper way to handle stress.

He who has a taste for dispute has a taste for blows,
the man of haughty speech courts destruction.
Proverbs 17: 19

At deciding lawsuits I am no better than anyone else; but what is necessary is to bring about a state of affairs in which there will be no lawsuits.
Confucius

Note that Ritsema/Karcher's summation of the Judgment stands in stark disagreement with the general tenor of the figure: I have never received this hexagram when that interpretation has applied.